Blackcomb E-Bike ride with Richie Schley and Wade Simmons! | Jordan Uphill Turbo Boostmaster!


today I get to go on an e-bike ride with
some legends Wade Simmons and Richie Schley we also go Bryson
and Bryson junior from DVO suspension and this other guy sorry I forgot your
name but we’re all on e-bike’s today I’m borrowing an E-bike from Norco so we’ll
get to see how that feels all the guys I’m riding with today really love their E-bikes obviously I can enjoy getting up the mountain faster that’s pretty sweet
but am I really going to enjoy the descent as much is it worth it to have
an e bike to get up faster even though your descent is going to be let’s say a
little bit hindered well I’m glad to get the experience today and honestly I
actually have a lot of thoughts about this I’ll be sharing throughout the
video today we’re going up to dark crystal on Blackcomb mountain now I did
post a video from this trail a few weeks ago but I mean come on I’m riding
frickin e-bikes with the legends so I think this should be pretty awesome and
I hope you can forgive the familiar trail content and the conditions are
even better this time compared to last time I rode it I’m a full-time youtuber now actually! yeah it is a thing! One interesting thing I found is that the Norco ebike I was on it had a lower powered battery this one
has about a 500 watt hour battery whereas most other ebikes have something
like a 700 watt hour battery just the day before we filmed this ride I
actually did another E bike ride with Mo and Hannah Awesome and you can actually
see a video on their channel featuring me I’ll link to that in the upper right
here in the cards I was riding on a specialized kenevo and yeah I could tell
that one did have a bit more of a powerful battery you can hear a bit more
of my thoughts in their video as well but I will be sharing all the same
thoughts in this video as well I can I have to admit when I’m pedaling
up this trail portion it kind of feels like cheating when using the pedal
assist now when you’re going up the fire roads who cares that doesn’t matter I
mean you know you can shuttle there’s chairlift bike parks but then
when you’re like zooming up an actual trail it’s a bit different something’s a
bit different about that and I don’t know I’m not not too sure if it’s the
best thing I may have to rename my channel to Jordan ultra mega super
uphill turbo boost master I do kind of wonder what some of these
riders were thinking when we passed them all on e-bikes like what do you guys
think when you guys are peddling up a hill or hiking up or doing whatever and
then you have a bikers zooming past you what do you think do you think that
they’re cheating do you say something like good on them I wish I had that too
what is your guys as you towards them I wonder
I’ve got your shin pads on yeah because your face is on the packaging they are
actually our favorite dude so this is the kazoo all right well it’s time to
hit up Dark Crystal in case you’re unfamiliar with this trail is a classic
really popular really sought-after enduro trail on a black film mountain
you’re about to see why this trail is so good forgot that were in such heavier
bikes you don’t stop the same just on
Wednesday it was wetter than this so this is like
min for me yeah on so that Steve’s up I was realizing like man these brakes are
not gonna be the same such heavy bikes like that’s sweet the party on the lakes
trout come out here not too much assist when it comes to the
weight of these ebikes the extra weight is concentrated basically where you’d
want it to be which is the lower center portion of the bikes because you have
the battery on that lower tube now that’s great for stability and so like
that now I’m not too sure if it’s just that I’m not used to it or what but I
still felt kind of strange on it because when you think about it this really is
an unnatural weight distribution of a heavy bike so did you take an older
let’s say a 50 pound D H bike or something all the weight is more
distributed evenly among all the parts and I wonder if that would almost feel
less strange than the bike so with an e bike it’s sort of like they’re trying to
make it as light as possible to compensate for the heavy battery but
then all the weight gets concentrated in one spot and it just makes it feel maybe
almost unbalanced you might argue even though it’s technically balanced because
of the location of the weight but just to name cut of unnatural way oh crap whoops yeah I don’t know if I’m just
getting like kind of picky now or something and I don’t really have a bike
to compare this to like say a 46 47 pound bike to compare this to I’d love
to hear your thoughts I wonder what you guys think but I’m just not too sure if
it’s all that great having all the weight in one spot it just gives a bit
of a funny feeling it’s sort of seems I first saw I went into a tree I pinched
these cables I think I might have I got pinched this derailleur cable and then
next time I just like went right off the trail I’m not used to these heavy bikes it’s something take it you see this
trail is just in perfect shape right now it was wetter the last time I wrote it
and now it just feels amazing no matter what bike you’re riding it’s
always a good time just to get out in nature and ride some awesome trails like
this gnarlie all right gnarlie nutty Oh Wade’s down so one thing that I’m
thinking about ebikes here is on one hand they do get you up faster and that
allows you to do more trails in the same amount of time and that’s pretty awesome
right I’m kind of afraid that it might end up making you less appreciative of
the kinds of trails that you ride and just sort of getting through trails
getting through things really quick and fast and accomplishing more and this and
that and just kind of not giving yourself time to stop and smell the
roses so to speak now I guess you could argue that same thing when you’re riding
lift access bike parks or just doing shuttle rides – I guess it’s just that
now with ebikes you can kind of bring that into non lift access trails or non
shuttle level trails you can now bring that into those more secluded trail
areas where you’d always have to work harder for your descent now you just
have to work less and now not there’s anything really wrong with that but I do
got to say even as someone who loves doing shuttle runs or riding at lift
access bike parks I really do appreciate sometimes just climbing up a mountain
naturally and buy your own two legs kind of thing and being more in the middle of
nowhere riding trails that you know you can’t ride very often because it’s
difficult to get up them there really is something satisfying about that and I
think everyone can probably agree with that even the people that own bikes can
probably understand what I’m saying anyway but I’m just saying personally
I’m not very interested in e bikes and I think that’s fine if you are interested
in them but I gotta say they’re not really for me
gnarlie that shoot was on your caseload on it’s like more of a workout with
their the heavy banks so it turns out I actually got a flat tire on the rear so
that was pretty lame I think it was from a rocky corner or a while back where you
could actually hear my rim hit it but yeah there was a slow leak so we just
fixed it up no problem have your bike here so one thing that
many people in TX might do is keep the pedal assist on in the lowest setting as
you go down the trail which can be nice for the flat and uphill portions
actually especially considering that your bike is pretty heavy anyway because
if you have it off then you’re just lugging around really heavy bike so
you’re almost obligated to have a little bit of pedal assist on at least on
enduro and all-mountain type trails but I can say though after trying the e
bikes I just don’t really care for them on the descents obviously it’s nice
going uphill but is it really worth it though and this is a good question that
low awesome asked me on the knee bike ride I did the previous day he asked me
would I rather lug up my own regular like enduro bike or downhill bike for a
really fun descent or would I rather go up a whole lot easier with an e bike and
then descend with that and my answer is that I would rather lug up my own pedal
bike my own enduro bike or downhill bike I’ll hike up I’ll pedal what I can I’ll
hike up whatever I have to and I’ll descend with that because it’s a lot
more fun because for me ultimately it’s just all about the descents it’s not at
all about the uphills and I’m ok with suffering a bit more on the uphills to
make sure that my down hills are that much more fun so that’s just me you know
you guys can have a different opinion that’s perfectly fine let me know what
you guys think in the comments I love to hear them so that’s what I’m gonna say
for myself the bikes are just not really for me but I’m really glad I could try
them out and basically I don’t have any interest in getting an e bike in the
future trying to follow Wade here was a workout
there isn’t really any pedaling to do here but with the heavy bikes it can
really make you work for your speed and I can actually be more tiring you in
just to maneuver such a bike and definitely harder on the brakes send it yeah crazy so after riding Dark Crystal we pedaled
up a little bit more again to go into Rome in the loam it’s a pretty good
trail I rode this for the first time at the EWS 100 race in Whistler a couple
months ago man it would have been nice to have an
e-bike for this stage of the race why do you do that now he’s gonna dream the
right these guys all seem to really love their
e-bikes and you know what I had fun on this ride of course I did why not
I mean we’re riding off some trails riding with some bros and yeah you know
it’s a good time at the end of the day you really just kind of have to decide
you know what’s gonna be right for you you know what do you really want what do
you want out of mountain biking our ebikes any good for you do you really
benefit from them I could certainly tell you it was nice
having some pedal assist for some of these flatter parts not that I needed or
care that much but it was nice and that’s about it
obviously e-bikes are gonna be no fun at all for jump trails or free riding stuff
like that of course because you’re just gonna start pedaling two paths and sort
of we’re shooting things and you’re just riding a really heavy bike and it’s like
okay well what is this for they’re very all mountain enduro we
aren’t they you know I guess there are downhill bikes too aren’t there but I’m
pretty sure that’s really just help you get up though what I don’t know I’d be
kind of interesting going down I actually think I might be more scared to
ride an e downhill bike on like say yeah a gnarly double black technical trail
you know with the heavier weight with the with the motor with the pedal assist
I think it might make me screw up I don’t know Sam pilgrim seems to have a
lot of fun his e bike so that’s pretty cool yeah well I’m so glad I got to do that
ride that was so cool getting to eat waiting Richie and trying out ebikes a
bit more and riding black home trails is always awesome thank you guys so much
for watching leave a like and subscribe if you haven’t already I got so many
more awesome videos coming up for you guys I want to give it a big thanks to
my patron through all of this channel and I’ll see you guys next time

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