Should You Buy A Rim Or Disc Brake Road Bike Next? | GCN Tech Show Ep. 76


– Welcome to the GCN Tech Show. He’s back and well, we’ve
got new bikes, hubs, rims, and even some prototype tires. – And our main talking point this week, you’re going to love this, right? – Go on. – The next bike you buy, should it be rim brake or disc brake? – I don’t know why you do this, but it’s going to be fun. – Can of worms. – Oh, yes. (upbeat music) – It’s now time for
our main talking point, and this week we’re discussing
a very divisive issue. One that has split the
nation, divided families, broken friendships apart, which bike should you buy next, a rim brake bike or a disc brake bike? Now, we get asked this a lot so we’ve decided to address it. – Yeah. I mean, a few shows
back, we did have a vote, which looks better, rim
brakes or disc brake bikes? And the results were pretty conclusive, I’ve forgot what you rigged them at but it was about 79% in
favor of disc brake bikes. – [Ollie] I have to
say, I agree with that. I think they do look better. – [Jon] Yeah, I think I’m
kind of inclined to agree that on modern bikes, disc
brakes can look really good. – Yeah. But, this isn’t about what they look like, this is about all-round
performance and day to day living. And there are advantages and
disadvantages to both systems so what we’re going to do it weigh them up and then go from there. And then you can decide depending
on the riding that you do and where you like to ride,
what works best for you. – The weight. Typically, a rim brake bike is
going to be about half a kilo lighter than it’s equivalent
with disc a brake bike and well, sometimes, even more than that. – Yeah, this may or may not matter to you, but if you race up hills,
then it could be significant. And also, the lighter the rider, the greater proportion
of the overall percentage of mass the bike represents, so lighter riders stand to
gain more from a lighter bike. – Yeah. And I’m sure that disc brake bikes will get to the same sort of weight as a rim brake bike as
technology advances, become more and more,
you know, thought out, but right now, it’s not there. – Yeah. – Which is probably one
of the reasons, actually, why we don’t see Grand Tour
contenders using disc brakes. – Yeah.
– Because they want to make the most of what they can when it comes to going uphill. – Yeah, and it’s still
difficult to build a UCI limit, 6.8 kilogram bike, with
hydraulic disc brakes. – Yeah.
– Especially an aero one. So, next up is comfort. Now, this doesn’t apply
to all bikes and models but sometimes, the disc
brake specific model of a certain bike can, you
know, be harsher to ride, more stiff, and less comfortable
than the rim brake version and this often happens
when you’ve had a bike that was originally
designed as a rim brake bike and then it was subsequently
retrofitted with discs to become a disc brake bike and wasn’t designed from the ground up as having disc brakes. – Yeah. – Then, it’s kind of
like, because you’ve got the added reinforcement to cope with the increased brake
strain and torsional strain from the caliper from the disc brakes, and also through axles in there, it can just make it
bit stiffer and harsher and less comfortable to ride. – Yeah, actually, I really
agree with you on that. The first generation of
disc brake road bikes were quite often real boneshakers
to ride, weren’t they? Just because of that, you know, there wasn’t the thought-out processes of the design refinements
of it, the specific frame. Which brings us onto handling. And well, with the added
weight of a disc brake bike, sometimes they can feel a
little bit sluggish, can’t they? To accelerate when you get out the saddle. And then, combined with, generally, they tend to have slightly
longer chains today, not all of them, but most of them do. Gives you a longer
trail, longer wheel base, that kind of thing so it’s not quite the sort of brakes-y
feeling, almost, is it? – [Ollie] Yeah, but– – Takes a bit of getting used to, I guess, that’s what I’m trying to say.
– Yeah, it can be, but, you know, it’s something that not all bike manufacturers have, as well, so some do have the same geometry now, so it’s things that are changing. And also, the flip side to
them being sort of stiffer, as well, can be an advantage. So, for example, you know,
if you’re a powerful rider, like Chris Opie, he, you
know, loves sprinting. He would go for a disc brake
bike everyday of the week because he, the stiffness
from the through axles really stands out to him and he loves it. – Yeah, he even said, actually,
earlier on in the office, he would like to have a rim brake bike with through axles, didn’t he? He said, “Imagine how cool that would be.” – Well, yeah, you’d like to try it out, yeah.
– Yeah. Don’t fancy going on one of them. – Braking performance. There is no doubt about it, if you want superior braking performance, discs are the way to go. Particularly if you live
in mountainous areas or very wet areas, for sure. – Yeah, I don’t dispute that at all. I have consistently descended
faster, both in the wet and, crucially, the dry on disc bakes. Undoubtedly, they’re better,
but when I’m, you know, riding my bike and I’m descending, I’m not being paid to race
and most of my descending I do is on open road with traffic
coming the other way, so, consequently, I don’t
like pushing it on descents to the point where I need
disc brakes on that limit, I prefer to sort of just
take my time and enjoy it. And if, you know, I’m riding with friends and I’m racing my mates, I prefer to race them up the climb where the lighter bike
will give me the edge and then just take it easy on the descent. And especially if it’s wet, as well, I’m just back right off. I’m not going to take any risks. – Yeah, definitely not. Do you know what? I never take risks anymore
in the hills, at all. And it’s really worth
pointing out, as well, when I’ve been riding on a disc brake bike for quite some time, you get so used to how late you can actually brake. With anything, really,
that you’re faced with, you know, out on your ride, then when you swap over
to a rim brake bike, it’s surprising how much further you have to start thinking
about those actions. You know, you can catch
yourself off guard. And it’s like why
cyclocross riders, you know, at first, they were very
slow to sort of embrace the disc brake culture before realizing, actually, they could
race into the corners, and like, literally through them rather than scrubbing off a bit of speed and going round at sort of
quite a leisurely sort of pace, it’s really changed those styles of races. – Right, next up is traveling. Now, I travel a lot with bikes,
not just on GCN adventures but my own adventures, too. – He’s like Pee Wee
Herman, the Big Adventure. – Yeah, well, it’s why I’m
never here, on the Tech Show. – Yeah.
– That’s why. But, in all this experience
of traveling with bikes, without any shadow of a doubt, when it comes to packing bikes
into cars or into bike boxes, rim brake, it’s easier. You don’t have to worry about, you know, slightly bending of knocking
your rotors in transit. – Nope.
– Which can then cause them to catch. Often, I have to remove
the rotors in transit to stop them catching, but
that just adds more time on and it’s another thing to do. And you also don’t have to
worry about your calipers closing on rim brakes, you
know, when you pull the lever. – Yeah, that’s true, yeah.
– When there’s no rotor in there, and then you end
having to prise them apart in a car park at the other end. – [Jon] Yeah, well, worse still is that pistons actually
pop out of the caliper. – [Ollie] Yeah. – That’s not pretty. And I’ve got to say, actually, that this is probably the one thing, whenever I speak to any pro mechanics, and I say, “Oh, how you getting
on with your disc brakes?” They always say, you
know, fine, generally. The only problem for them is the travel, particularly with air travel, they say they always have to
bleed them at the other end and that is just another job
which they have to add on to, well, the longest day of any person working in the bike team, isn’t it? – Yeah. And I think that sort of follows on with maintenance, as well. – Yes. – So, I mean, in my experience
of maintaining brake systems and I’m sure you’ll agree with this. – Well, don’t say that yet. – Well, rim is easier. You’re changing a cable, like
just a simple brake cable and a housing or just some
brake pads on a rim brake. – [Jon] Yeah. – Is a quicker job that
having to bleed a brake. – Oh, yeah, undoubtedly, yeah. It’s less stuff you
have to carry with you. I mean, it’s not, you know,
the small, little things, like day to day bits, like
brake pads is just as quick but for a full system setup,
yeah, it’s much longer. – Yeah. – I mean, I don’t do it as much
as a mountain bike mechanic would say, but yeah, it’s definitely a lot
quicker on a rim brake. – But, there are some
advantages to disc brakes. So, I find that the service
interval, if you will, between having to, you
know, bleed the brake system compared to having to change a cable, I find it lasts much longer
on a disc brake system if it’s set up properly.
– Yeah. – But, when you do have to do
that job, it’s a bigger job. – Yeah, they’re also less influenced by outside characteristics, you know, really bad weather
and things like that. With rim brakes, a standard Bowden cable, that soon becomes really sort
of messed up, doesn’t it? From grit and grime and everything whereas, well, it’s a
completely sealed system on disc brakes.
– Yep. – So, you’ve got that major advantage. – Yeah, and another big
advantage is rim wear. – Oh, yeah.
– You don’t get rim wear on a disc brake bike.
– No. – Like, disc brake wheels,
you don’t have to worry about your rims wearing down if you
ride them in dirty, wet roads which is potentially a big
advantage over a rim brake bike. – Yeah, too right, yeah.
– Especially if you’ve got fancy rims and you want to
ride them in bad conditions. – Yeah, all year round, and
make everyone else jealous. Do you know what? That’s one thing, actually,
I’m really jealous about when I see someone in really
bad weather and you’re out, I put like, you know, some
old training wheels in a bike and I ride with someone with disc brakes and they’re on a pair
of really bling wheels, I’m like, “You are so luck today.” – Usually me. – Yeah, it is, yeah. When he’s out traveling. Right, decision time, then Ollie. – Yeah. – What are you going to
get on your next bike? – You know what? I’ve got a couple of disc
brake bikes at the moment so I think I’m going to get a rim one so I’ve got both bases covered. I think that’s, yeah. – Yeah, yeah, but, if you
had to make the choice, take away those two disc
brake bikes that you’ve got and you’ve got to just choose one, you can just equal it out. – Oh, it’s tough. I’d quite like to have
a go at some hill climbs in September. – Heard it here first. – Might have a go. – Okay. – But, so, a rim brake bike being lighter would be good for that. – Yeah. – I’ve got a few set of rim
brake wheels lying around as well, that would become redundant if I just had disc brake bikes, so it’d be nice to make use of those and I think also just
where I’m at right now in terms of the riding that
I’m doing and where I ride, a rim brake bike just suits
me a little bit better. But, I have to say, if
I did live somewhere where there were steep
climbs and technical descents and you know, it rained quite
a bit like north Yorkshire or the Lake District, then
without doubt, I’d go disc. – Yeah.
– Without a doubt. – Yeah, I’ve got to
agree with you on that. Also, I mean, any kind of off road riding, yeah, disc brake’s the way forward, forget, like, rim brakes
on that because it’s just, these days, I can’t believe how, well, bad those brakes were, actually. You know, V brakes, cantilever brakes, caliper brakes if you’re really old, then I’ve got to agree with you, as well. It is all dependent of the terrain, the weather and everything. You know, back when I
was living in Belgium, Belgium winter, there is no
way I got to use rim brakes just purely because of
the number of brake pads I was getting through, and that’s even on pancake flat roads. But, in the summertime, rim
brakes were absolutely fine, so, I mean, it is really
horses for courses, isn’t it? But it’s a tough decision to make. – This is the thing, right? It’s a unique problem depending on you, where you ride, you know, the
kind of riding that you do, and there are advantages
and disadvantages to both. – Yeah. Not that quite straight forward, is it? What did the viewers vote for, though? – Yeah, we did a poll on social media to see what you think.
– We did. – Well, overwhelmingly, most
of you would choose to buy a disc brake bike next.
– Is that right? – [Ollie] 66%, so. – [Jon] That’s amazing. – [Ollie] It’s a lot, yeah. – [Jon] Yeah, like we
did on the last poll, if we’d asked that a year
to, a year or two before, the results, I feel, would’ve
been totally different. – Yeah. We’d love to know your thoughts
and comments on this, though so let us know in the
comment section down there what you think about.
– It’s going to get heated. I don’t know why we do this to ourselves. – Yeah, but it’s interesting. I tell you what. – Yeah?
– I wonder how the rim brake extinction clock’s doing? – It’s still there, isn’t it? Not long to go, now. Right, last week, well, Chris and I, we showed you our first bike so we asked you to share us
photos of our first bikes. I’ve got to say, it’s such
a special moment, isn’t it? And, well, just here’s
some of our favorites. – Yeah.
– Let’s have a look at them. Right, who’s first up, mate? – Rajesh from B Cuttack. There he is. – [Jon] Yeah, on his little bike there.
– On his bike, looks like he’s in his back garden. – [Jon] That’s cool, isn’t it? – [Ollie] Yeah, I know. – [Jon] Can’t quite see the face but I bet there’s a big
smile behind that left arm. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] I bet there’s a big smile. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] Not sure that’s the best way to get onto the bike, but. – I think, he’s not sat on a saddle, he’s sat on, like, the rack.
– The rack, yeah. It’s like a long rider,
like a low long rider, cool. Next one, Daniel in his backyard,
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA. I think this one, well,
from 1953, or 1954, that is so, that’s like Pee Wee
Herman on his big adventure. – [Ollie] That’s really cool, isn’t it? – [Jon] Yeah, it’s like
the little wry smile, looking into the sun. – [Ollie] I love the
big tires on that bike, as well.
– Yeah. It’s like a proper cruiser bike, isn’t it? – [Ollie] Yeah, that’s a cool bike. – [Jon] It’s nice, that. I like the bricks in the
background, all the stonework. – Yeah, well, bit of dry stone
wall, it looks like there. – Yeah, yeah.
– Nice. – Who’s next? – Next up, we’ve Tom,
Ashtabula, from Ohiho. And there he is, I mean,
he’s not very old there. – [Jon] No, I reckon that’s
probably from like the same era looking at the bagginess of the trousers. – [Ollie] Yeah, and a trike. – [Jon] Yeah, nice little trike there. – [Ollie] You don’t see
many trikes these days. – [Jon] No, no, I think
children these days are not blessed with tricycles. It’s like a mini penny-farthing
with an extra wheel. – [Ollie] You get, yeah, yeah, it’s sort of like balance bikes have taken over a bit where
we used to have trikes. And that’s really cool, yeah, with the pedals on the front wheel. – [Jon] Yeah, just, you know, it’s, have you ever seen
competitive tricycle races? – No.
– The time trials? Yeah, it is a thing. I’ve even seen tandem trikes, as well. Maybe we could get you on one of them. Right, next is–
– That’s pretty good. – Ted from San Anselmo, California. Probably said that all wrong. Look at that little smile on Ted’s face, again.
– I know. He’s delighted, isn’t he? – [Jon] He is, yeah. – [Ollie] Pure delight. – [Jon] I mean, that’s from
the 50’s, it’s got to be, have they got any brakes on that bike? Must be a pedal back brake. But, a big smile, turned up trousers. Those trousers probably
lasted Ted about five years, the length of them. – [Ollie] They probably did. – [Jon] Enough about his fashion, but that’s almost the same
bike as the one of Daniel. – [Ollie] Is it, yeah. – [Jon] Yeah. Do you know what? I absolutely love this because– – [Ollie] It’s a cracker, isn’t it? – [Jon] The proud moment. – [Ollie] It’s awesome just seeing how bikes have changed, as well, looking back at the old bikes.
– Yeah. – Next up, we’ve got Marcus from Banning, California, US of A. – Everyone in America speaks the same. – They do, don’t they? It’s weird.
– Yeah. – I do actually ring them
all up before we do the show and just check.
– Just to check with Marcus. – That that’s how he talks.
– From Banning. – That’s exactly how he talks. – So, when you get that person, that double glazing salesman, that’s actually Oliver Bridgewood. Keeping you on the phone. – Yeah, well. – Oh, there he is. – There he is.
– Anyway, Marcus. – [Ollie] Look at that. He’s got a friend, as well.
– Yeah. Loving, well, sort of,
admiringly looking down on the bike.
– Yeah, that’s a look of jealousy, isn’t it? From the more mature
gentleman in the photo, looking down at the–
– Yeah. – [Jon] Actually, he’s
probably looking down thinking, “Well, Marcus, your quick release skewer “on the front wheel is on the wrong side.” – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] Only joking,
Marcus, I love that picture. I think it’s just,
you’re so chuffed with it and the other fellow is
just like, “That’s a bike.” – Yeah.
– That is a bike. – It’s like a still film Breaking Away. If you’ve not seen Breaking Away. – Watch it.
– Watch it now. Watch it after the show. – Yeah, yeah, not now. I’ve got one of you, actually, Ollie. – What? – Yeah, I’ve got one of you. Look, there you are. This is Ollie, aged six, and his Raleigh Mustang.
– Oh, dear, oh, dear. – An exquisite track suit top, too. Look, he hasn’t changed one bit. Well, slightly. – [Ollie] No, I don’t have
that tracksuit anymore. – [Jon] Yeah, you’ve still
got the same haircut. – [Ollie] I tell you
what, I love that bike. – [Jon] Tell us about the bike. Look at the tracksuit top. – [Ollie] That’s a great
tracksuit, isn’t it? I loved that bike, do you know what? I was ahead of the times, there. That’s SixSpeed, one-by, one-by. Look at those tan sidewall tires. I mean, that was basically
a modern gravel bike before gravel bikes were invented. – [Jon] Yeah. – [Ollie] A trendsetter. – Yeah, you look like
Eddie the Eagle there. It’s great. Right. – There you go. You can’t unsee that now. – All right, new tech now. Firstly, French wheel specialist, Mavic, have just launched some new rims and hubs. First up though, the hubs. The MR801, they’ve had a
complete and utter redesign from anything from Mavic previously and there’s actually
fewer moving parts inside. Importantly, while there’s only one spring inside of the freehub mechanism, which it is opposed to the standard two that they had in there and then there’s even a
noise reduction rubber which, well, for those of you who’ve had some Mavic wheels out there in the past, sometimes they can scream a little bit. Basically, the freehub has got
like a top hat washer design and it just catch a bit of a screech. So, that’s a welcomed addition. – Yeah, they look really tidy,
though, those new wheels. – Yeah. – So, there’s two versions. There’s the OpenPros which are 25 millimeters
deeps in rim brake and 32 millimeters deep
in disc brake version. And then, there’s the CXP Pro Carbons which are 40 millimeters
deep in the rim brake, 45 in the disc brake and
the other cool thing, right? All of them, UST tubeless ready. – Oh, that’s great, isn’t it? Oh, I just love a really
shallow section carbon wheel, there’s something about them. – Yeah. – Reminds me of Campag high prongs or Zipp 202s, that sort of thing. – Yeah, I love my 202s. – Good work, Mavic. Staying with wheels, and although
they’re not on a bicycle, it is important to say that Michelin who actually were on
of the first companies to make a bicycle tire have released a prototype of a tire in
conjunction with general motors. Uptis, the unique,
puncture proof tire system. – [Ollie] Yeah, well, it’s
a prototype at the moment, it’s been created using 3D printing and it eliminates punctures and blowouts. Pretty cool.
– Yep, very cool. – [Ollie] I mean, it begs the question, will we see this kind of
technology appear on bicycle tires? – Yeah.
– At some point. I mean, we’ve had solid tires in the past but this is completely different to that. I mean, the ride quality on solid tires is no where near as good as a normal, sort of, pneumatic tire and the rolling resistance is much higher so it’ll be interesting to see what the rolling resistance
is like on these tires but you can see they’re
clearly directional. – Yeah. – In terms of, like,
construction at the graphic. – Yeah, you won’t wouldn’t
want to fit those on the wrong way round because if you did, I guess they would, well, just collapse. They’ll just sag, like, at all times.
– Yeah, interesting. – Yeah, but anyway, keep your
eyes peeled for that one. Couple of new bikes now. First up, Factor Bikes,
they’ve got a new frame and it’s called the VAM
and it’s being developed after three years of
data findings and well, it’s essentially very much
a regeneration of the O2 which was out there but it’s lighter and well, a bike still needs
to be nice and stiff, too. And they reckon they’ve don’t it, but how? – Well, they’ve optimized
the structural design, meaning that they’ve not overused material anywhere where it’s not needed and they’ve also got an
improved molding process which, well, has greater compaction and uses higher pressures which eliminates excess resin
in the carbon layer, as well. And the result is a sub 700 gram frame. – That is for a disc brake frame, too, which is pretty impressive
and before you ask, yep, it comes in a rim brake version, too. Everybody’s happy, you happy? – Yeah. – I’m happy. – I want both, though. – There’s no pleasing some people. – Yeah, anyway, finally,
the State Bicycle Company who are, well, famed for their fixed seat and single speed bikes have released their flirts
road bike with gears. It’s the 4130 Road. 4130, referring to the
specific type of, well, steel that the bike is made from. Look at that, that’s
really smart, isn’t it? I just love how minimalistic it is. – Yeah. – And retro it looks. – Yeah. Now, this bike is action
packed and, you know, full of tech, you’re not
going to expect that, really, from a company who’ve specialized in fixed seat and single
speeds, really, are you? No, they’re going down
that minimalistic route, so we’ve got a single
chainring on the front, just a 44 tooth and then it’s paired up with an 11 to 28 eight
speed set on the rear and controlled with just
a single downtube shifter. – Nice. – It looks really good, that. – That’s smart. – Yeah, nice work. – It’s now time for screw
riding upgrades buy upgrades where you submit before, after
models, pictures, sculptures, videos, animations of your upgrades that you’ve done to your bikes or kit for the chance to win the ultimate prize. What can they win, Jon? – They can win a GCN
Camelbak water bottle. Take it with you on your
travels, you won’t spill a drop. What’s not to like about that? – Yeah, I wasn’t here last week,
what did we have last week? – Oh, right, well, we
have David and his Rossin and we had Hamish and his giant Cadex that he found on a
rubbish dump, basically. I thought it was going to
be really, really close thought out affair but
sadly, David beat the giant. – [Ollie] Goliath. – Yeah, exactly, I didn’t want
to go down that cheesy caption because I know you love a cheesy caption but anyway, David, get
in touch with us, mate, 79% of the votes, get in
touch with us on Facebook. – That’s a landslide. – It is, yeah, landslide
beat the landfill found bike. By the way, that was a rubbish little bit. Who’ve we got this week Ollie? – This week, we’ve got Chris from Seattle. Now, Chris has his Meander 710. Now, that’s a southern
accent but I rang up Chris and checked, he is
actually from the south. – Oh, great.
– He emigrated to the north west.
– The north area. Yep. – Of America. – I just like Seattle Seahawks,
American football, myself. – No way.
– Yep. – Frasier, that’s there, isn’t it? – Yep. – Anyway, and Pearl Jam. Now, 2005, Chris was burnt
out from training and racing and he sold his bikes and in 2014, after almost a decade out of the scene, the urge returned to Chris,
that’s good to hear, Chris. – Yeah, welcome back to the crew. – And he began looking
for a re-entry bike. And the agenda was something cheap that he wouldn’t have to worry about so he had this 84 Meister
710 on Craiglist for $200. He bought it, right? – Nice. – It had the original mix of components except for the odd choice of
some old Campag bits on it and a weird, weird saddle. So, Chris decided it was
time to take this lovely but sad looking beige
bike and liven it up. – Oh, I like the sound of this. – Have a look at this, right? What do you think? – All right, so.
– There we go. Mavic OpenPro rims, Ultegra hubs, new Selle Italia Turbo saddle, bit or florescent sparkle
neon green, deep purple. Look at that. – There it is, the old beige thing. There it is, all stripped
of it’s bits and built up. Tell you what, that
looks good, doesn’t it? Not normally a fan of brown
bar tape and saddles, but. – I know, but it works doesn’t it? – But it pops, doesn’t it, that? – It does. It’s very smart. – Yeah. – I like that green. – Yeah, I was going to say, you don’t see may green bikes, do you? – Yeah, that’s, I like that. – Nice work, Chris. Right, okay. Chris, though, faces Simon
from Quebec in Canada. – Eh. – What? – That’s what they say. Chris faces Simon from Quebec in Canada. – Eh. He’ll get it. – Oh, right, okay. Right, when first getting into cycling, Simon’s father gave him his 40 year old Peugeot 10 speed bike. Simon wasn’t a fan of reaching down to reach the shift levers and
decided to modernize the bike. Simon bought an old Campagnolo
Mirage groupset on eBay, after stripping the old frame for what felt like an eternity, he could finally paint it and
apply the brand new decals. – Decals. – Decals, whatever. Simon had to machine to
mounts out of aluminum for the new brakes and welded a mount for the front derailleur, too. So, let’s have a little
look, there’s the old center pull Peugeot brakes. Probably Wyman, but just
rebrand just Peugeot. – They’re almost as good as
the brakes on Peugeot cars. – Steady. Right, so, there’s the
old, look at how cracked the sidewalls are on those old tires. Head badge, love a head badge. Oh, nut attached, oh, right, let’s go down then.
– Very rusty chain. – Yeah. It’s got very big tri
bars on the front there, but anyway, this is all
pre revamp, or pre upgrade. I tell you what, that is
a great bit of machining that they’ve done on
that front brake caliper. Isn’t it?
– That is a proper restoration job that, isn’t it? – And sprayed, I like those decals. – Decals. – They are good, I mean. – That is. – It’s a beauty, isn’t it? – That’s a great restoration job. – Yeah, and it’s the fact, you know, one, he’s put a triple chain set on there and wouldn’t have been that
easy to just make a mount specific for that frame
and that front mech. – Do you know, it’s tough this week, isn’t it?
– Yeah. – There’s two excellent submissions. – Yeah.
– Really good. – I mean, that’s someone
who, a lot of people, they would just put some
deep drop calipers on there and be like, “I’m done with it.” – [Ollie] He’s got that Delta brake, oh, no, that’s not Delta brakes. – No, Simon from Quebec, no, it’s not Detlas. – It said Mirage, weren’t it?
– Wash your mouth out. – I saw it, I saw it, yeah. Oh, that’s good. – Who’s it going to be
though, Chris or Simon? Simon or Chris? Where are they going to vote? – I’ve forgotten. – Outside.
– Not been in. – Right. – Right, we need to announce the winner of last week’s special
segment of Bike of the Week where it was between two Giro d’Italia classification winning bikes and it was the pink jersey
bike of Richard Carapaz. – [Ollie] You forgot his name. – [Jon] Yeah, I did, yeah. Total and utter blur. And the 50, 50 bike of Pascal Ackermann who, of course, won the
point jersey at the Giro. And the winner was Pascal Ackermann. There we are.
– Oh, yeah, that. – [Jon] Yeah, yeah, more
than 50% of the votes. – [Ollie] Yeah. – Yeah, 50, 50. Do you like Lemar? That song, 50/50. – Who? – No one. No one. Right, now time for the part
of the show, The Bike Vault, where we rate your bikes
either nice or super nice so if you’ve got a picture of your bike in an absolutely beautiful location, please do submit it
using the uploader tool found in the description
below and don’t forget, please, to include your location. Not just my back garden,
my backyard, my house, what happens, Ollie, when
they get rated super nice? – Well, yeah, they’re
either nice or super nice but if it’s super nice, we ring the bell and the bell gets rung.
– Gets rung. – And then they go in the vault. – Yeah. – This week, Jon will be ringing the bell. – I will, yeah. Right, so, who is first
of the agenda this week? – This week, first up,
we have got Marc with a C from Salisbury in the UK. There’s his Peugeot
with, oh, look at that. – [Jon] That is one of the 753 bikes. Renault 753 tubes, I’m sure of it. That is a beauty. – [Ollie] That is a, that is brilliant. – [Jon] Yeah, that’s early 90’s. – Bit of, a little bit of–
– It is 753, definitely, it’s on the top tube.
– A little bit of modern and retro combined, there. – [Jon] Go on. – [Ollie] With the Elite
Bico Carbon bottle cage. – [Jon] Yeah, as well
as the carbon cranks, carbon rear mech, carbon fork. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] Campagnolo Zonda wheels, oh. There were, like, basically– – [Ollie] They’re your
favorites, aren’t they? – [Jon] No, Shamals are. Basically, if you couldn’t
afford the Shamals, you had the Zondas or the Vento on the, and I think there’s another one but he’s got the Cinelli
Intergralter handlebars there. – [Ollie] We’ve talked about those before. – [Jon] Yeah. Yeah, you used to be able
to put a picture on the top, it’s got a modern saddle,
I mean, comfort is key. That, it’s a beauty, isn’t it?
– That’s a cracker, isn’t it? – Yeah. Well, he’s getting a ring. Nice one, Marc in Salisbury. – Right, who’s next?
– Next up. – Is Dion in the Mourne
Mountains, Northern Ireland. Apparently, this is where
the Game of Thrones is filmed but I wouldn’t know, I don’t watch that. Do you watch that? Game of Thrones? – I have watched Game of
Thrones before and this is his Venom minus 06.
– I’ve never watched it. Not interested in Dungeons and Dragons. – Right.
– Right. – SRAM Force on there, Vision wheels, what do you reckon, Jon? – [Jon] Go back up, let’s have a look. Does look like a nice place, that. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] I don’t know,
really, the angle a bit, is a bit, the back wheel looks small. – [Ollie] Yeah, I think you
do need to get them square on, don’t you? It always looks better, it always presents it in
the best light, square on. – [Jon] You’ve got to go
45 or maybe 30 degrees, or 90, head on, or flat on. – [Ollie] Yeah. I mean, it’s a nice one.
– It’s a nice bike, though, isn’t it, that? – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] You know, there’s no
extra being chucked on there. You know, it doesn’t look like
you’ve ram-raided a bike shop with your bike covered in super glue. Does it? – [Ollie] Yep. – [Jon] There’s nothing
worse than that, is there? – [Ollie] I mean, he’s removed
the appendages, as well. Always like to see that.
– Yeah. – [Ollie] You know, saddle bag on there, that’s always going to
earn you a few points and he’s not got excess steerer. – [Jon] Nope. – [Ollie] Enough there,
so, you know he’s– – Getting there, he’s getting there. Oh, for me, personally, it’s
just got be a little bit more. – Right, that’s a nice. – Nice. Okay, next up, we’ve
got John from Mooloolaba on the Sunshine Coast in Australia. – Mooloolaba?
– Mooloolaba. I know how to say that, I’ve
been there, the Sunshine Coast, absolutely love it, John, invite
my out to stay, my friend. Love it there.
– Wowzers. – [Jon] I rented a swan pedalo there. – [Ollie] I’ve not seen
a bike like that before. – [Jon] Yeah, it’s a
Carrera custom, apparently. It’s a beauty, isn’t it? It’s got one of those
internal wedge seat posts. – [Ollie] Yeah, that saddle
is very minimalistic, isn’t it?
– Yeah. Oh, it’s a cool bike. – [Ollie] That is a cool bike, isn’t it? And he’s shot with great depth of fields. – [Jon] I was just going to say, I knew you were going to come out with– – [Ollie] Great depth of fields. – [Jon] Practical photographer
monthly magazine, quite. – [Ollie] You know, he’s
done a good, good job there. – [Jon] I like the Gulf
racing-style colors, although, the blue is
not quite Gulf, is it? – [Ollie] No. – [Jon] But, it’s almost there. Vittorio tires, it looks like some of the old Corsa CXs, I think. – [Ollie] I’m a bit interested, I don’t know what those wheels
are, I don’t recognize those, I’m interested to know what they are. – [Jon] The back one, at first glance, looks like a LightWeight, doesn’t it? Time Xpresso pedals.
– oh, they’re lightweight, aren’t they?
– Very light, yeah. Xpresso 8s on there, right.
– Don’t know what volumes are there. – [Ollie] I like that he’s
color matched his stems. – [Jon] Yeah, and the, oh, well, everything on it is
color matched, isn’t it? In a way.
– I think that’s a super nice. – Yeah, we’ll give it a ring. John, don’t forget, flight tickets and all that for Mooloolaba. All right.
– Right. – Who’s up next? – I’m not going to be able–
– Petyr, it’s Petyr. – Is it Petyr?
– Yeah, Petyr from– – Petyr from Warsaw in Poland and he’s at the local pump track on his way to work in a very snowy scene. – [Jon] Yeah. – [Ollie] It says it’s
Boardman Hybrid Team 2014 and it’s a roadie conversion. So, a flat bar to road bike conversion. – [Jon] That’s done really well, isn’t it? – [Ollie] That is a cracker. – [Jon] You know, I would
never know it was a conversion. Would you?
– No, no. Bonus points, as well. – Go on. – GCN water bottle popping out. – [Jon] You can get past Ollie. – [Ollie] Good one. – [Jon] You can try and
sneak anything past him. – [Ollie] Great work. – Yeah.
– Great work. – [Jon] They’re gravel bars, aren’t they? Look at the flare on those. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] Just look at that lever angle. Again, good depth of field. – [Ollie] Excellent depth of field. For me, it’s super nice. – [Jon] Yeah, super
nice, definitely, mate. That’s a really nice looking bike. – [Ollie] It’s cool. – [Jon] Oh, God, brings back memories, going to Warsaw in the snow,
it was absolutely freezing. – [Ollie] It’s just proper
functional, that bike, isn’t it?
– Yeah, it’s great. – [Ollie] It’s wicked. – [Jon] Yeah, love it. Is it like a chrome-style paint? Or not? – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] I’ve got a feeling
they were, weren’t they? – Yeah, yeah.
– Yeah? Right. Ring of the bell, and who’s
the final one this week? – David at the Denver City Park Criterium. – Yep. Yeah, maybe, that’s David, I’m pretty sure he actually
hand built that frame himself. Culbertson frame, 001, made
out of Columbus SL tubes. Looks like Record,
definitely Record hubs– – [Ollie] I’ll tell you, that
water bottle is intriguing me, it looks like he’s got a bottle
of Persil washing detergent tied to his bike.
– Once again, Ollie, those who know, know. That is the Campagnolo,
I think it was called the Bio Aerodynamica Water Bottle. Heavily used by, actually,
back in the early 2000s, I’ve got a feeling that
Armstrong rode a time trial in the Tour de France with one of those on and then ultimately, it
lead to the development by Elite and Gatorade,
all these people and tax to start making that shape bottle again. – [Ollie] Cool. – [Jon] An interesting
bit of bike trivia, there. – [Ollie] Yeah, and, well. – [Jon] Really interesting. – [Ollie] Good for the Daz
Doorstep Challenge, as well. – [Jon] Great depth of field, once again, some strong depth of field this week. – [Ollie] Look, in the background,
that is a race happening. – [Jon] There’s actually a race happening. – [Ollie] That isn’t
some, like, cool artwork. – [Jon] That is going the extra mile, isn’t it?
– Yeah. – [Jon] To get the blurry
cyclists in the background. – [Ollie] Yeah. – Action shot.
– Yeah. – Great.
– But, the right frame, the shutter speed, is that correct? – Yes.
– Shutter speed to actually be able to
capture it and we can tell, look there’s a Canyon
on the right, I reckon. – Yeah.
– It looks like a Canyon logo. Don’t know.
– Brilliant. – [Jon] Yeah, that is a, that’s a fantastic.
– Oh, a Regal saddle. Probably one of the
most comfortable saddles I’ve ever used in my life. – [Ollie] That’s just,
that there, brilliant. – [Jon] You like that, don’t you? And you’re not a big
retro bike fan, are you? – [Ollie] I’d ride that. – [Jon] There we are, David. Sent it on over to Mister Bridgewood. – [Ollie] Yeah, I’ll
take it off your hands. – Yep.
– Thanks, David. That’s a super nice for me. – Yep, super nice for me. Remember, use that uploader
tool, get involved. We love looking through
these, they’re great. It’s still ringing. David, that was a super, super nice. Right, it’s nearly time
for the end of the show but guess what? We have got a brand new
channel launching, oh, yes. Ollie, tell them what it is. – Get this right, we
are launching GCN Japan. – [Jon] Oh, yes. It’s going to be big in Japan. – [Ollie] Like Alphaville. – [Jon] Yeah, and well,
I am so excited for this because I have spent
some time with the guys and they know their stuff,
all right, don’t they? – [Ollie] Yeah, cool
bunch of guys that are launching that channel.
– Yeah, we absolutely love them. Right, but before we go,
let’s actually go through some of our favorite comments
underneath last week’s show. Ollie, bring it in, who’ve we got? – Official Rollout, he said, Hobbit needs to be a recurring character. – Yeah, Spencer Lemon says,
trashing on your family all over YouTube, where’s
the opportunity for Hobbit to tell his side of the story? Hashtag, just for Hobbit. Now, in case you forgot,
Hobbit is a cousin of mine who borrowed my first bike, or
first competitive racing bike and launched it into a lake
and I do believe left it there, although, last week I did
ask him and he denied it. – Justice for Hobbit. – Yeah, he’s all over
my Instagram right now. – Presta Chuck said, you
guys gave that Dean softail monstrosity a super nice but
that beautiful Trek Madone at the beginning was only a nice. What have you been smoking
at the back shop room? – Well, we don’t smoke. – No.
– No. So, there we go. – I only smoke when I’m
on fire, Presta Chuck. – That sounds like Alan Partridge. Right, our final one was Red Ronin, Chris has standards for super nice? What is this baloney? And I’ve got to agree. – Yeah. – I’ve got to agree, Chris Opie, what we’re you thinking there? There is no standards for super nice, we just do I randomly, don’t we? – Yeah, no idea. – But, well, stay tuned
on the channel this week because we’ve got a whole
heap of more great content coming up, haven’t we, Sherlock? – Yeah, we do, so please
like and subscribe and I will see you next week. – And if you want to watch
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