Why You Will Get Cut Defending Against a Knife • Martial Arts Journey


Reality of Knife Defense There is no shortage of alleged knife defense
techniques both online and in various training places. Having personally been introduced to Aikido’s
knife defense techniques and only later learning how far it is from the actual reality of knife
defense, I personally know very well how many of presented knife defense techniques suffer
from the same lack of realism. Unfortunately as the common practitioner does
not know what to look for in understanding whether the presented knife defense technique
is realistic or not, many are taught something what would never work in a real situation
and thus face a life threatening danger, if they will ever face a real knife defense situation
while having false knowledge about how it really works. For this reason I’ve interview Bruno Orozco,
a self defense expert who has not been satisfied with just nice looking knife defense techniques
and really looked into how knife defense actually works. Hi, my name is Rokas, and in this Martial
Arts Journey video we will look at the Reality of Knife Defense. When talking about knife defense, first of
all, it is important to establish that the best knife defense is to run away. As Bruno Orozco says: “The knife is a very
simple and complex weapon at the same time. Simple, because anyone can grab a knife and
hurt you, and complex because a knife doesn’t have patterns. It’s too fast and too chaotic. It’s a weapon that’s practically impossible
to stop, if someone with a true focus to kill is holding it. It’s impossible to come out unharmed in
a knife attack.”. To elaborate on Bruno’s thought – it is
only a myth that it’s possible to rely on a single or few techniques to defend yourself
against a real knife attack. A knife is such a difficult weapon to defend
against, that if you ever come across such a situation, and you have a chance to run,
there should be no consideration in trusting your presumed superior knife defense techniques,
trying to disarm the attacker, just because of your confidence in what you learned. No unnecessary risk should be taken in such
a situation, and if you can run away, you should run away. Effective knife defense question though becomes
important, if you are in a situation where there is no option to run away, such as when
protecting a loved one, or having no escape route. This is where according to Bruno Orozco, we
need to understand how knife and weapon attacks work. Bruno points out that there are three categories
in weapons and knife defense: “First is the part of a threat, when you are shown a
weapon and are threatened, but they don’t touch you with the weapon, they just show
it. A mugging is when you are touched by a weapon,
but you are not attacked by it. And finally we have the attack, when you are
physically attacked by the weapon.”. To elaborate once more on what Bruno said,
it’s important to understand that if you are presented with a weapon, that is not yet
an actual attack and there is still space for either a pre-emptive attack, negotiation,
or simply giving your valuables to the mugger, if that guarantees safety. A much more difficult situation is if the
person with the knife is actually attacking. Here, Bruno continues: “In that case, the
best thing to do is to establish distance. We must not go to deliberately try to stop
or try to hold a knife. Because this is impossible if the knife is
in motion. The knife has a sort of come and go, bouncing
back and forth, really fast motion. So the only thing we can do, if we can not
establish distance is to reduce the damage, that the knife will inflict upon us. Only reduce and not eliminate, because it’s
impossible to come out unharmed from a real knife attack.”. I personally found this point brought up by
Bruno Orozco fascinating. All the knife defense techniques that I was
introduced to prior to this interview, were showing clean techniques, against a single
thrust, were as a performer of the technique I would get out unharmed during my training. Only later I realized that having this expectation
of performing a clean, single technique, can prove to be fatal, since as soon as this clean
technique would not work in reality once, the brain could easily freeze in presumed
failure and would be unable to effectively defend further. Expecting from the very beginning that the
knife will most likely inflict damage, may very well give the required mental fortitude
to continue on defending, even if the technique is not landing clean and damage is done. As Bruno says, the real question is not on
how to avoid damage all together, but how to reduce it: “To reduce the damage we have
to know the techniques where we don’t allow the knife to harm us or cut us in vital areas
of our body, because if we end up unconscious cause of lack of blood, we will not be able
to defend ourselves.”. As later Bruno points out these vital areas
can be described as horizontal lines. As you move down from the top of the head,
the vital lines and non-vital lines switch in between. While the forehead is not a vital line, it
is important to know that if it is cut, a curtain of blood will spill into our eyes
making it unable for us to see, leading to deadly results. If the line across our eyes is cut, we may
lose our sight all-together due to direct eye damage. The next line across the level of the mouth
and chin is not as vital, yet the following line of the neck is. As we move further down, our chest is protected
by chest muscles and rib cage, making it almost as a natural armor and thus: non-vital, yet
the next level down is vital again, as it includes our liver and pancreas and little
protection. Even lower we have our intestines, where if
someone stabs, it’s less serious, yet if someone slashes with enough power, the intestines
will pop out and to quote Bruno: “You will be too preoccupied to pick them up and not
defending yourself”. To move our attention to the arms, Bruno explains
that the interior part of them have veins, while the external part doesn’t. Thus if a person ends up defending against
a knife with his external parts of the arms, it will cause less serious damage. Meanwhile, if an artery or a vein is reached
in the internal side of the arms, it’s less than a minute until a person will pass out. While there will be a chance to continue to
fight during that time, one will slowly start to feel ill, and eventually end up unconscious. In the end Bruno explains that in a knife
attack we have to protect the mentioned vital areas and be willing to sacrifice the non-vital
ones, while remembering that there are actually no clean techniques against a knife. While considering that running away is not
an option in some cases and knowing the difference between vital and non vital areas, the last
question that remains, is how to actually train for a real knife attack and how to really
defend from it. When asked, Bruno answers that when you focus
on reducing damage, the next step is to counter attack: “The best counter attack technique
is a combination of striking and grappling. Grappling not as if you take the opponent
to the floor, but grappling as a movement of leverage – as in wrist locks and fingerlocks.”. Here Bruno points out that here Aikido knife
defense techniques can come in useful, as they include wrist locks and fingerlocks against
a knife attacker, yet he also stresses that it’s not just the techniques themselves
which matter, but also the training method: “[These techniques work], if they are adapted
to the reality of the knife. And the only way to do this is to do sparring
with a training knife. Because if you don’t know how someone is
actually going to attack you, in a training session and under pressure, then you will
never know what combination of striking and locks to apply.”. As we’ve came to the end of the discussion
about the knife, Bruno wanted to point out one more last thing by saying: “Most knife
attacks are ambushes. So the victim does not see the knife until
he or she feels it in the body. Unless it’s a case of a threat though a
distance, were you can use that distance to be able to run away, but if the agresor is
closing the distance and you can not run away, then you have to fight for your life – understanding
that you will be hurt, but with appropriate techniques you can come out alive. And that’ the reality of the knife.”. As you see from this talk, the reality of
knife defense is far from how most self defense systems introduce it: clean, specific technique
where the defender comes out unharmed. If we want to raise our chances of surviving
a real knife attack, we have to be willing to face the reality of it by being ready for
it both physically, while doing proper, pressure and intensity training, and also mentally,
considering all possible options in order to raise our chances of coming out alive. As in most real answers, there is no easy
quick solution for this life threatening scenario, and we must face the reality of it in our
training, rather than have our fantasy shattered in a life or death scenario if such a time
comes. If you liked the video, make sure to share
it with your friends and martial arts community. Also, check Bruno Orozco’s YouTube channel
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36 comments

  1. As long as they dont have the commando perk, keep distance and hold crouch button and then pull right trigger or left mouse button while aimed at that dumb noob for not having commando equipped.

  2. I think the best option against knives is clean striking, kicks, straights, cutting angles and sniping strikes. Don't let them get close. A mistake many people make is waiting to get a grab of the knife hand and focus on disarming. If you don't pose a threat to the opponent and you are passive you will be at huge disadvantage. You cannot defend forever, better be in the attack. That being said, obviously escape the area if possible, just pointing out for all the smartasses out there.

  3. FINALLY, a martial art training that is realistic. Granted, being a big Asian American, people have prejudices and stereotypes, but the best defense is running away.

  4. I prefer my 9 mm sig sauer ,but is always good to know something when the you can control the action,in 80 % of the attacks you will get cut but you can survive is you know what are you facing.

  5. We train by saying very first off ' Knife is life' whomever controls the knife controls your life… if your martial art school does not say that, and you do not go full speed with a training knife.. find a new school..
    Thank you for the well put together video

  6. 1. If you don't know how to defend against a knife, don't assume nobody else knows.
    2. Showing clips of BS knife defense techniques practiced in slow motion doesn't prove your point.
    3. Handing over your cash or running, won't make you any less likely to be cut
    4. Kicking is the only way to defend without actually getting hurt. I know this from EXPERIENCE, something apparently foreign to most "experts"

  7. This is the best teaching I've seen in 58 years of martial arts practice. Some students are awarded a black belt and think they are my personal hero Bruce Lee. Even a 120 pound crack head can kill using a knife, get the message?
    This video I hope students will not forget because in a real fight if you lose, you cannot hit reset and start over again.

  8. The ol crocodile dun de defense. He goes pulling out his knife 3 times the size you call that a knife now this is a knife

  9. What is rarely mentioned here or anywhere, if the person holding the knife with the intent of actully using it is any competent, you are pretty much a goner. If they show it to you, there is some chance that you give them what they want and be on your way unharmed. Little dignity lost, but fuck dignity vs life or health.

    On the contrary, if you find yourself in some sort of altercation, be mindful always of the space between you. If it's closer then the reach of your foot, they are standing too close. I had to learn the hard way to never ever lose focus of where their hands are. We were both drunk, and was just coming up to one another about to do a little monkey dance, standing face to face when the other guy starts backing off and I for the first time realize he actually has a knife. I fully bend knife, because this little asshole trying to stab me with all the force he could, and I just got lucky it hit my leather belt and hip bone beneath it.. I ended up with a scar, but no bleeding, however next two weeks, I actually felt the bone or area around it hurt.

    If someone has murderous intent in mind, and is competent, you will never even see it.

    TL:dR Try not to get into fights on the street, do your best not to be total dick to people and always be mindful of distances and their hands.. All of each is much easier said then done, especially in urban areas.

  10. Simple, use a vest under your shirt at all times, and ask your local surgeon to remove your neck. If the distance is right, kick him in the face as hard as possible, and follow up immediately until he's out (you gotta practice this kick properly). If he's too close for that, point out his poor life choices and offer help, then gouge out his eyes while he's distracted.

  11. Ive been in a knife attack about 2 years ago and i can say watching some videos online to learn how to defend against them is better than not knowing. I disarmed this man who didn't get to cut me once. But i did have to fist fight him even after i got the weapon away.

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